Then got message that I've used up all of my ATM strategies and have to close one but everything is closed and flattened. Ninja has been around for years and has much intelligence. The temporary elevated margin requirements will remain in place until market volatility is determined to present manageable risk for our traders. $800 account. Reply. $1. If you opt for market replay, you can directly go to the date you want e. r/FuturesTrading is a place to discuss futures, commodities, etc. There is a lot of instructions on Apex site including lots of bold red text that yells at you to do things in a specific order. Tradestation does it. Tradovate’s DOM (and tape) is really useless. seems very ignorant as this has been brought up so many times before. The one thing that ninjatrader has over tradovate is that it allows you to pretty much connect to any broker of your choice. I have accounts at two prop firms I trade through Tradovate web. If you want DOM, you can pay more ($13. I wish tradingview could up there game on delivery. 61 (61 cents) per trade is the total cost (commissions and other fees not charged by Tradovate but charged by markets that get passed onto Tradovate and then passed on to you), so a buy and sell to close the trade will cost $1. If someone can help with great hitting indicators, that would be great! Or if anyone can give a good strategy, it would be helpful. Goal is to make $200-300/day. The problem is Tradovate. You can also set the time till the second if more specific such as 09:35:11. 3K subscribers in the Tradovate community. Please be aware, the elevated initial margin rates r/FuturesTrading is a place to discuss futures, commodities, etc. Feel free to submit papers/links of things you find interesting. You just gotta role with it. You need the maintenance margin if you're holding the contract when the futures markets are closed. Just like when you paper trade on TV. Share futures trading insight, tips, and your trades! Beware of Tradovate. I would try to drag and drop my stop to tighten it up, but it wouldn't take and would revert back to the original price. The goal of this message is to provide you an update regarding what For anyone using Tradovate, There's a community indicator that puts the tick/time amount of the current bar on your chart, near the action. On economic news, the index can move 40 points or more in a minute! Welcome to FXGears. If I'm not mistaken, I believe Ninja and Tradovate has now merged. They require it. I do not think that the web platform is very compelling at the moment, but the price is not very far out of line from the rest of the industry. Can anyone help me figure out why my trades are being rejected? I trade $50k Apex accounts on Tradovate and now when I try to enter an order with my… 1. Which one is recommended? Tradovate for the sole reason of being able to use it with trading view. Designed for speed and ease of use, Tradovate’s depth of market (DOM) module allows traders to quickly analyze price information in the exchange’s limit order book, place orders rapidly, and managing positions easily. Yeah, but i couldn’t find an efficient way to do more than 1 stock/future at a time, and backtesting and making changes takes a long time. , non-CQG) integration with Jigsaw Daytradr and with TradingView (since I believe 2 weeks ago). I go straight through the broker. 92 cents round per contract. Tradovate requires $500 initial margin for each mini. Go and Buy the tradovate simulated subscription and the live Market data cme (if You are gonna trade futures) and the 9. If you want to just check the candlebar in 1 minute timeframe, you can sign up for free with a gmail account. . Share futures trading insight, tips, and your trades! Tradovate - Orders placed without knowledge on live account. Make sure you go in to the settings and set the data feed to ninja trader. You can get TV on tradovate for 10. I did the same exact layout on Tradovate, however the indicators (alligator & 200 ema) are different due to them following the candles of their respective time frame. Though the margin requirement is $50, that is a special rate from Tradovate. There's direct (i. For example: Going long at 5264. The exchange sets margins around $13k per contract. As long as you’re not trading a ton of contracts, though, that’s negligible. Checked for pop-up blockers, tried on IOS, MACos, and Windows, and Currently just port into my home computer for orderflow on the go but rather have native app support for it. So the main difference is the platform you are using. 10 May 2022. 50 for /ES, but I'm not 100% sure of that. surreel. TLDR: Lost $430 due to what looks like a pretty big bug. g. Use a WebSocket npm / Node / require. This only covers their part of the trading cost, and will not reduce or get rid of the exchange fees that are built into the cost per trade. Traderview is 10 minutes delayed so it sucks using their indicators unless I connect it to tradovatewhich is an additional fee. In combination with a bookmap or jigsaw dom and footprint you might be ok with a low overhead as a new trader Intraday margin rates will be set to Initial Exchange Margin prior to the release of key economic news announcements for any and/or all products. For a complete beginner to futures, tradovate and ninjatrader are fine to start. 54 comms = $2. Both Tradovate and TS have sim accounts, but TS has no market replay feature. The commissions for the free membership seem reasonable enough. Every time I pull up a Footprint chart (can’t remember what they call it), the fans on my machine suddenly go brr! I don’t have that problem with tradingview or sierra chart. Message Tradovate support they’re great at explaining it and very responsive. Tradovate lacks this feature. You need to have $500 in your account for every ES contract you buy up to 20 contracts (which would mean if you buy 20 ES contracts you need $10k liquid cash in your account). Except when go to the page (pictures below) and click start application nothing happens. AMP charges around 2 dollars per trade each way, which takes a large chunk of my profits. Tradovate has crap performance and I’m pretty sure their UI has a memory leak. If you have a tradovate account you can download Ninja trader and use the same account on it. You can’t even autocenter that garbage lol. The notional value is that that x $50 per point, nearly $250k per contract, yet Tradovate allows you to trade with $500 per contract. After 20, it’s half of the initial margin requirement for intraday trading - this is another $5,830. However, it is far easier to view, or even export, historical data with TS. I currently have a personal account with Tradovate. It is TYPICAL on the ES to not fill an order when the spread hits your tick. com's Reddit Forex Trading Community! Here you can converse about trading ideas, strategies, trading psychology, and nearly everything in between! ---- We also have one of the largest forex chatrooms online! ---- /r/Forex is the official subreddit of FXGears. I finished my evaluation with Apex (propfirm) and they sent me an email saying to open a prop account with the sim account they already gave me. But as you go deeper and require better data and better execution and better information from the markets, you'll naturally gravitate towards those platforms with stability, speed, all the information you want, and customization. Jigsaw is $50 per month. Tradovate and other brokers offer reduced margins. So I’ve seen people say to just lie on your application about income/net worth and they won’t check well I did that and I’ve been approved (AMP), but now there’s a Welcome to FXGears. Google is your friend. If i enter a position on quantower, i can create a stop loss and drag it around like tradovate. We know we let you down. Try to do it on a second demo account now second demo account is messed up and I can't use ATMs. Problem is level 2 data is not only expensive on these eval accounts but also tradovate uses CQG data and they only provide like 7 points of DOM data, not only that but the DOM doesn't work well on tradovate (wont auto center). I understand I can log in on TV with my Tradovate account. Currently I log into one account via regular browser Welcome to FXGears. Also Buy the plan for tradingview and the live data cme also for 7$. To start, we want to apologize for failing to deliver the system performance you both require and expect as a Tradovate client. Members Online Confident-Walk-929 There's a day margin in Futures and a Maintenance margin. It's free to use and the data subscription through Tradovate works on it. Apex first delayed response to my payout request for 14 days, (i requested near midnight when the request period opens) and they waited until the 14th in the afternoon to ask for all this information and trade logs from Tradovate. e. Select non-professional. That's how it is on Tradovate, other brokers might vary on the hours. This is practically binary option (a scam) lol. In the client how can I view the trade details for a single trade? I want to see the P/L and the fees with each leg (open and close). I used to use tradingview and tradovate when I first started trading futures. The regular margin is around $1500 for 1 contract right now. I've tried using two different WIFI networks. So $10k for 20 contracts but for your 21st contract you’ll need The margin requirements Tradovate posts isn’t what they offer you; it’s the amount of collateral you need to hold in your account in order to enter (regular margin) or hold (maintenance margin) a position. I've found an… Welcome to FXGears. ToS fees will eat away at your account, especially when trading micros, and the margin requirements are much higher. Anyway a quick way for people who want to avoid the $25 probably is to go enter a MES contract and exit immediately. You need the most basic (top of book) to trade, which is $3. 1 contract each trade. NinjaTrader owns Tradovate. We recently experienced service outages which interrupted trading for many of our users. 79. The thing that I don’t like bout the tradovate app is that drawings are more of a hassle to manage, NinjaTrader makes it much easier to save drawings and move them around charts. It has to chew threw hundreds of orders and if it only hits your price for a second, it is completely expected that you might not fill. I mention this just so you understand the extreme leverage you are playing with. That was on one demo account. Since you don’t spend money to purchase a contract, you’re required to hold a margin in your own account to protect yourself and U can't. 22 total. Tradovate does have the market replay feature which is awesome for practicing but it does cost $50/m if not on the Active Trader plan, which again doesn't offer much of a discount on micros. NT buys tradovate. If you are in a position widen your stops by 2-3x if you can afford the risk. I've been told one has different rates and the other glitches more. Recent System Outage Update. Will I have to start paying for professional data fees on my other brokerages once I earn funding through TradingView for the PRO+ is only $30 a month. Also with a trailing stop loss and 3 trade limit . The DOM gives traders an essential view of the market and power to trade their strategies with precision. I am interested in starting a topstep combine but I have a few questions. It should guide your trading decisions. Share futures trading insight, tips, and your trades! Getting approved for futures trading difficulties. It's unbelievable to think that they already have this feature but they would not put it on the mobile app. Use it for charting. 13 vs $3. The only thing they can’t simulate is the impact your trades will have on the market/participants who would make different choices if they saw your trades. Have the indicator display signals on the DOM or chart with some kind of audiovisual output, trade Thanks for the really awesome strategy, it works great though I'm still in the midst of testing it out. But to look at past data need to scroll and scroll. DOMs give you not only micro but macro awareness of the market. I moved to ninjatrader and it is ridiculously powerful, took me about a month to learn the basic commands but it is miles and miles away from where i was using IBKR and a python API, also the backtest strategy deploys instantly in a live market no need to Yes, you should definitely consider other platforms such as NinjaTrader, AMP, TradeStation, and Optimus. Oct 28, 2022 ยท In this blog post, we will discuss how you can use Tradovate to trade Axia Futures strategies. I've contacted them had an agent asked me to describe my issue but no follow-up. With the one time payment for the lifetime license on NinjaTrader you can get commissions down to . I heard that TT has a better DOM, some day I’ll try it. After you enter a trade let’s say you going long … just enter a sell order on the chart where you want your stop loss and another order for your take profit. NintendoParty. 00, risk 1:3 pretty much. So you will have that option if you ever want to switch programs without having to make another account. On quantower as I'm dragging it shows For the people having the se issue i found the solution. Install Tradovate software. 00/month), but other brokers, like thinkorswim, can provide DOM for free. Anybody have this problem?? You have to put in the right title of the product in tradingview it’s mnqm2024. Here are some balance histories for my futures account over the past few weeks when I started actively trading my futures account again, primarily /MNQ long and short, 2-5 contracts. But in general. Edit: Broke the links for automod Tradovate has integration with NinjaTrader. Reply reply. I have seen that Tradovate offers the Active trader plan at 99 dollars per month, which gives a 0. 00/month. Get your data & algo running third party, establish a localhost WebSocket Server to send trade signals from the algo to the WebSocket listener. Quality of this broker seems to going downhill. Meaning it runs on your computer, where as tradovate is a web based application so it runs on the web. Personally, I track it after every trade in my trade log. The indicator should now appear in the "Custom" tab of the Indicators window. I have a community strategy selected (not individual indicators), I can set the alarm buuuuut what about the Webhook URL? Where do I find the correct webhook URL? Welcome to FXGears. It’s fine, it’s similar to 0dte options. Ninjatrader and Tradovate are two complete different systems. Im entering positions and don't have a way to quickly figure out how much my profit or loss will be at different prices. Bad communication. Tradovate vs. Started about 6 weeks ago: ~$6,000. Even if this is not a scam you are actually getting short changed. Ye don’t use the trading view for placing and closing, trade on tradovate but have it integrated into TV so you can see it nicely on your charts. Let me explain NInjatrader is a locally runned program. Select the VWAP indicator and click "Add" to add it to your chart. Gonna be a slow crawl to 10k. It wasn't so bad for trading during the evening, but forget about trying to trade the open. i trade the MES with tradovate and pay $3. If you’re not already in a position just watch it play out or trade paper. If you use 1 tick data or high fill resolution, you will be closer to reality (it's Welcome to FXGears. Tradovate doesn't like my Reddit post, so they'll "consider" refunding my money if I claim it's not their fault. It only takes ONE market order in the other direction to stop you from filling next. Tradingview is awesome because I can make my own indicators/strategies. 99/month. View community ranking In the Top 20% of largest communities on Reddit. 6 discount per contract. IMO Tradovate has one of the best (or maybe even the best) simulators around. So I'm unsure if $500 is truly too small and I need to Hi!SO i watched a few videos, but I still don't understand how I can set up automatic orders based on a strategy in Tradingview. 10. Sign tradovate forms. TradingTechnologies can be $100 per month. The Real Housewives of Atlanta; The Bachelor; Sister Wives; 90 Day Fiance; Wife Swap; The Amazing Race Australia; Married at First Sight; The Real Housewives of Dallas Tradovate is great, online platform is surprisingly decent, and you can get a CQG connection to any platform that supports it. I had the same trouble with the desktop app so, I began using the NinjaTrader app instead. A place for redditors to discuss quantitative trading, statistical methods, econometrics, programming, implementation, automated strategies, and bounce ideas off each other for constructive criticism. I know the minimum requirement to trade MNQ is $50, which maybe it's to entice new inexperienced traders. 2. It is pretty easy to replicate the position and hedge it so you’re very likely to be shortchanged. NT is better if you know to code or want highly customizable systems to manage trades & you do not let your system go inactive. if you have many UserIDs, you can't do simultaneous login. At Axia Futures, our core focus is on leveraging tools such as DOM (Price Ladder r/FuturesTrading is a place to discuss futures, commodities, etc. Amp. After a week or so: $13,000 (caught some nice market drops when I was short /MNQ) 2 days later: $3,300 - yeah, $10k drop in A place for redditors to discuss quantitative trading, statistical methods, econometrics, programming, implementation, automated strategies, and bounce ideas off each other for constructive criticism. I've learned that it is much more important to monitor your drawdown than your profits. 99$ activation tp TradingView. I have blown up 2 accounts because Tradovate didn't abide by my sell or stop orders. Automate stocks, options and futures strategies with @TradingView or @TrendSpider in brokers like @TDAmeritrade, @TradeStation, @RobinhoodApp and @AlpacaHQ. There’s limited support and limited community around Tradovate yet. I do not recommend trading through tradingview at all. 3. com, a trading forum run by professional traders. Click on the "Indicators" button in the top toolbar. It's called "LDT - Remaining Time and Ticks". In the case of Tradovate trading costs you can pay varying amounts up front to reduce their fees per contract per trade, up to and including the flat rate for unlimited trades per year. Apex Trading Plans. ago. I've always traded a single Topstep account with tradovate plugged into tradingview. It’s the best way to learn. Create Apex account. I don't understand people that cheap out with trading software. Title says it all, I can't log in, will only get a infinite black loading screen, but if things do load its just a white screen instead of black…. This change just recently happen — but TRADOVATE when they got purchased by NT, NT basically took the UI (down to the mobile app) because they didn’t really have ine. There are no shortcuts in programming. 50, profit target: 5290. Can I use the group trade feature to link my personal account and combine (funded account). If you pay for data in tradovate and then link the 2 accounts you will have the same real time futures data available at tradingview, and can also execute trades on the tradingview chart if you so wish. I'm really new to trading futures and currently have a $500 live account in tradovate. Also the MNQJUNE2024 can’t place a trade on either just get 3 dots where you click to place a trade. TRY TRADOVATE Welcome to FXGears. You would need $1060 to hold the contract open during those hours the futures market is closed. 00 a month. To get all the advanced features in SierraCharts it is $36-$46 per month depending on your data needs. I love it for charting but sucks for actual trading. Mastering a Straightforward Scalping Strategy Welcome to FXGears. When they say "All-In" is that one way or round trip? If that's the total price then that's cheaper than even AMP with their reddit deal at $2. If you don't tie your orders to 1 tick data or use high fill resolution, your backtest will be wildly different than reality. From what I have heard tradovate might have a faster market data response time than AMP. js framework and embed it in Tradovate custom code indicator. It's your remaining trading budget. If you have 1 UserID : many accounts, you can see them. I trade 1-2 minis, never hold overnight. Since I started using Jigsaw I understood the value of the DOM and how to see correlations in real time. Group trading feature. Welcome to FXGears. Trade is not in the same league but it can run on your phone. . Still no update on group account option on the cellphone. So yes, if the index moves 5 points, you just won or lost $250. Depends o. Receive Apex generated Tradovate account info. The Tradovate platform has been developed ground up to offer low-latency execution and order-flow tools that go hand in hand with the approach Axia Futures preaches. Watch this FVG strategy to learn how to pass Prop firm Evaluations easily and make a lot of Money ICT FVG Strategy To Get Funded with Prop Firms (ICT Secret) Welcome to FXGears. Very expensive for papertrading ill just do 1 or 2 months and the go Most brokers will change margin requirements in high volatility environments, often turning off day trade margin altogether. •. Do this every 90 days. To monitor it, click on the dropdown arrow next to the area that shows your equity - open p/l. SierraChart and Quantower both fall Welcome to FXGears. Hi I have a small account with AMP and trade around 75-100 futures contracts a day - mainly ES, RTY, NQ, CL and GC. 09 cents a contract, add the clearing fees it comes out to . I have read several sites whereby some thinks that $1000 is a very small account, let alone $500. Lol gambling on the stock market, but this time with less steps. Click on the "Import" button and select the indicator file you downloaded. Wait for tradovate to be created. When I get stop out I want to go long again with the same strategy, trailing stop and risk ratio but increase the entry by 5 point when I get stop out the 1st trade, trading 3 times only when I So I'm in a apex eval on tradovate, I almost passed it but I want to get access to level 2 data to see the DOM. The only way around it I’ve found, you need to make sure after you hit your target or stop that you exit all open orders if not you’ll come back later to an open order. I Have not tested this, but so far tradovate has been more than enough. Right now I happen to be on ninjatrader. I have been looking into scalping MES on NinjaTrader vs Tradovate. I don't want to pay sub fees and splits with them after that. Tradovate. 25 for 1 tick of spread + $1. In Tradeovate, open the chart you want to add VWAP to. you can open multiple instances of the app and log in to different accounts. 75, stop loss:5256. Ye. tradovate. For anyone that's done prop trading with Apex, what is exactly is the difference between the rithmic/ninjatrader plan vs the tradavate/ninjatrader. I've been doing it in the prop account so far just fine and about to hit my target. Whether you’re trying to code for the platform or API. They are two vastly different platforms. I use the position size tool to place pending bracket orders on the chart and then manage accordingly once in a position. Just take the money and fund my Tradovate account. • 2 yr. ES quotes are given as a spread, there is no I now use Ninja and TradingView. TradingView is a very good platform, because it offers exceptional technical tools and hundreds of Community Scripts to test strategies. They said i needed screenshots to prove i was only using one exact trade strategy or i would be denied. It's pretty screwed up if they meant 1st Mar - 90 days. Read through the examples provided. You can use the strategy builder for very simple strategies, but I'd suggest learning NinjaScript to get more out of NT strategies. This makes Tradovate a so-called discount futures broker (there are many). For providing strategies to test, it's similar to the MT4/MT5 Forex programs market. Either way plain ole JavaScript should work. 1. Can you trade on tradovate ? Trading on TradingView sucks anyways. Log into tradovate with Apex generated account data. puawlxcfamsunzaudtue